Baha’i activities, Baha’i friendship for what?

Hi, I’m new to this but I wanted to speak about my recent experiences with the local Baha’i cluster, their activities and how I lost most of my friends after I decided to stop participating in their events.

Firstly, I wanted to mention that I’m an atheist, I always have been and I imagine I always will be. I’m not sure if any of them knew that then, and I wonder if that played a role in how they treat me now. Although I dislike religion and what my friends did over the past year, I was never traumatised or severely upset by anything that happened and I can’t say I dislike any of these friends even if I disagree with them now.

At the start of 2016, my close friend invited me to a youth gathering which she described was for “community building activities” and “empowering youth,” with absolutely no mention of any religious component. I attended, we only discussed the societal potential of young people and by the end of the day some older youth I met had already signed me up to start the Ruhi Institute books despite the fact that I’d never heard of them and they didn’t show them to us or tell us what they were about.

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What made me leave the Baha’i faith ?

…I do agree though that the Baha’i Faith, in all it’s various incarnations, is a cult.

I was indoctrinated into the Baha’i Faith from the age of seven. I grew up believing that I was one of the chosen. Over the years though more and more Baha’i contradictions began to pile up to the point where I could no longer ignore them.

One of the first was when I asked my mother at around the age of 15 why women were not allowed to be members of the Universal House of Justice. Her response made me think. She said that women were not allowed to be members of the Universal House of Justice because of their monthly periods where they might be too emotional to made good decisions. I laugh now when I think back on that answer.

Such contradictions continued to mount for many years. At one event sponsored by the Regional Teaching Committee on the lower mainland in BC I attended a meeting where they advised the particapants to befriend people of Chinese ancestor for the purpose of converting them to the Baha’i Faith. We were cautioned to not reveal at first that Baha’u’llah was a prophet and Baha’i a religion but to say that Baha’u’llah was a social reformer and Baha’i a social movement. I immediately developed a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach. I felt like I’d walked into a Scientology meeting by mistake. I left that meeting without saying goodbye and the Faith was never the same for me after that Baha’i cult experience.

I did attend meetings in other Baha’i communities after that eye opener but the evidence that Baha’i is a cult simply mounted.

I attended one meeting in Creston BC where members of the Doukabor community were invited. The Doukabor folks shared some lovely singing after which the traveling Baha’i teacher gave a short lecture about the Baha’i Faith. At the end of her lecture this Baha’i teacher broke out the conversion cards she had with her and invited the lovely Doukabor folks to sign time. I had to speak out. Proselytization isn’t allowed in the Baha’i Faith and this was a clear case of proselytization.

The host was taken off guard when I mentioned the Baha’i prohibition on proselytization, especially after the fine Doulabor folks agreed that a clear attempt to convert them had been made. They had shared lovely singing the Baha’is has shared nothing but a shallow attempt to convert.

The traveling Baha’i teacher shot daggers at me when I apologized for raining on her parade.

Eventually such clear evidence of the Baha’i Faith’s cult status mounted until I could no longer in good conscience remain a Baha’i. I resigned from the Baha’i Faith after 45 years of being Baha’i.

Cheers

Larry Rowe

https://www.reddit.com/r/exbahai/comments/60619t/what_make_you_leave_the_faith/

Why I Know Baha’u’llah Isn’t a Manifestation of God… (by www.exbahai.com )

I’m still just getting started with this blog and will have a lot to add to this posting, but for now, I’ll list a few ideas that are coming to mind as I do my research.

This list shows where I’m going with this site. I want to expand on and write about all these items. My hope is that in writing about these issues, others who are recovering from years of being in the Baha’i religion will be aided in their abilities to look objectively at Baha’u’llah, his life, his teachings, and how we were affected by being Baha’is.

1. He doesn’t compare well with Jesus

a. He claimed to be a supreme manifestation of God but his life shows none of the qualities that made Jesus who He was: no miracles, no healings, no love, no gentle compassion, no life sacrifice.
b. Biblical prophecies cited are either vague or inaccurately interpreted.

2. His family was a mess!

a. He was a polygamist with four wives (don’t forget Jamaliyya, the one he married in his old age)
b. He had at least six children die in early childhood (WWJD? Heal them?)
c. He abandoned his family in Baghdad and his son died because of no medical care (ie: neglect)
d. His sons couldn’t get along well enough to fulfill his covenant
e. His descendants were thrown out of the main sect of the religion (excessive family disunity)

3. His writings are questionable

a. There are many talented speakers and writers who could produce similar books (Joseph Smith, for example, with his “Book of Mormon” – or Mary Baker Eddy with her “Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures” and many other writings; the idea that only Baha’u’llah could do this is just ludicrous)
b. He focused on his own problems calling himself “wounded one” over 170 times
c. No gospel of salvation similar to what’s found in the Bible
d. Laws – the legalism of the Baha’i Faith is outstanding. Christ came to set us free from legalism so why should we go back to it? The Bible says: “Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage. . . . you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.” Galatians 5:1,4 … Excessive legalism is a sign of a false religion. Cults are controlling.
e. Hypocrisy – write one thing and do another; not a good sign
f. World government is a bad idea
g. Works more important than grace
h. Prayerbooks interfere with directly talking to God (ie: prayer)
i. Inequality of men and women despite saying otherwise
j. He said God was unknowable and denied any relationship to God (first section of Gleanings)
k. Some laws are irrational and some cause extreme emotional pain to those trying to follow them
l. Threatening people who leave the religion (see the last page of the Kitab-i-Iqan)

4. The cultish religion

a. Hypocrisy & members in denial about that
b. Marketing strategies
c. Exclusion methods are cultish
d. Difficulty with withdrawal
e. Overemphasis on administration
f. Deceptive numbers … membership statistics
g. Spy tactics
h. Requests for money
i. Attempts to make other religions fit the Baha’i paradigm
j. Information control (publishing)
k. Information control (re: covenant breaking)
l. Excessive paranoia about “protection of the Faith”
m. Treating members like they’re not able to make up their own minds
n. Little teaching about spiritual concepts (Baha’i life is mostly admin work)
o. Possibly fixed elections since admin people stay the same year after year
p. Tracking people by number
q. Keeping files on members
r. The Archives building is a replica of the Parthenon, a temple to a mythological goddess
s. No tolerance for dissenting opinions
t. Tearing families apart in the name of the Almighty Protection obsession
u. Shaming people who make mistakes
v. Proselytizing while claiming they don’t proselytize

5. Personal

This section is about how the religion affected me.

a. No love
b. Judgement and accusations
c. Caused feelings of inadequacy
d. Caused depression
e. Exclusion
f. Guilt trips
g. Failed promises
h. Isolation
i. Loneliness
j. Cognitive dissonance
k. I ask myself: “Would a religion that treats me this way be from God?”

That’s it for now, from my point of view. This page will be expanded with explanations added as I continue to research the Baha’i religion.

You’re welcome to leave a comment here with other issues in case I didn’t touch on what you believe about him.

This posting is a work in progress… incomplete!

Deprogramming from the Baha’i World Faith

My personal experience of deprogramming from the Baha’i World Faith taught me more about myself, and humanity than I’d learned in my 45 years of being a Baha’i. Why? Because when I was a Baha’i I was right, my religion was right, there was no need for me to question anything. My independent search for the truth had ended and I had found my pie in the sky; well actually I had been indoctrinated into that way of seeing the world, of seeing myself. Seeing myself and my religion as the answer to all the worlds problems, if only they’d believe. It took several years of seeing the many clear contradictions in the Baha’i Faith, the many clear contradictions in the Baha’i writings, before I finally began to wake up from my indoctrinated slumber, before I stopped blaming myself for seeing all those clear contractions.

When I now contemplate such things as the Baha’i World Faith’s National Spiritual Assembly of the USA taking the Orthodox Baha’i Faith to court in an attempt to prevent Orthodox Baha’is from calling themselves Baha’is, from using Baha’i terminology in their religion, I can clearly see that the judge in the case didn’t error in ruling against the Baha’i World Faith, as well that he was right on to reprimand the National Spiritual Assembly of the USA for their attempt to quash the religious rights and freedoms of others. I also realized that this sort of religious thinking is the Most Great Divisiveness and is unworthy of a religion which supposedly has as it’s pivot the teaching of the oneness of humanity. I’ve come to see that the actual pivot of the Baha’i World Faith is not an inclusive and true oneness of humanity but an exclusive oneness of Baha’iness, a false oneness based on the belief that all of humanity needs to believe as we Baha’is believe.

Cheers

Larry Rowe

A Confession by an ex-Bahai (23 years!)…Must Read

I am Gamal Naseer an Egyptian, having 23 years of association with Baha’is, a Teacher for long time ,active as a core group member for few years. I attended many Baha’i programmes inside and outside Egypt. Having read Will and Testament many times, it was a question in my mind that why Shoghi Effendi has not left any Will appointing another Guardian, while Will and Testament says that “It is incumbent upon a Guardian to appoint another Guardian during his life time”. Shoghi did not nominate any successor after him because of which many divisions occurred in Baha’i faith.

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Interesting Comment on the Bahai Faith…

I made friends with a number of Bahais awhile back. After some investigation of the faith, I concluded that is was logically inconsistent and falsely advertised. This is NOT a universal faith, and contradicts science and reason, despite the insistence that it is a faith for modern times. Also, Bahais are quick to be your friend upon learning of your interest in the faith, but will quickly withdraw that friendship should you decide it’s not for you. This is not love.

Also, very few people have ever heard of the faith. Seriously, it’ been around for a century at least….. There are more people on this planet who have heard of those who believe in the “flying spaghetti monster” than they have of the Bahais. With all the communication available to the masses, surely if this was part of God’s Divine Plan, there would be more converts, right?

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Why I left the Bahai Faith? True Story…

This was one post which I got on my FaceBook page. I thought it would be interesting to share…

You can visit my Facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/BahaiAwareness

Shalom Aleichem!

Some days ago,I dropped out of the Bahai – Faith and now,I’d like to share my decisions,so I don’t want to run the faith down but just to use my freedom of speech.(God bless Democracy)

That’s why I dropped out of Bahai-Faith:

Well,I think we don’t need a new world order but just a new view on it and a new way of acting which is based on ethics.Democracy is best because it allows itself to get better.
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Former Hands of the Cause Reveals All!

Abdul Husain Aayati lived amongst the Bahais for 20 years and served them through these years. He was popularly known as “Awareh” which means the one who wandered about in love (of Bahaullah). After these years, he saw the corruptions of the Bahais first hand, renounced the Bahai Faith and finally reverted back to Islam. Thereafter he wrote the book “Kashful Heel” to reveal the true face and hypocrisy of the Bahais. The life history of Awareh is full of interesting events and episodes and all of these cannot be outlined in this brief treatise. However, in order to appreciate his book – Kashful heel – it is first important to understand his personality. Here is a brief about Awareh.

Who was Abdul Husain Aayati?

Abdul Husain Ayati

Abdul Husain Ayati

He was a littérateur, historian, writer, translator, journalist and a great poet. His father was Allamah Haaj Shaikh Mohammad, famous as “Haaj Aakhwant Tafti”. He was the grandchild of Sheikh Mohammad who was famous as “Aaqa Bururg” Tafti Yazdi. He came from an illustrious family of scholars from Yazd. Abdul Husain Aayati was born in 8th Zilhaj 1287 AH in Taft. At the young age of 15 years, he came to Yazd and attended the school of Khan Buzurg. He completed his study of Arabic grammar and language, logic and bayan from Meer Bahauddin Jandaqi Mulla Abdul Karim Misgar and Mulla Akber Nadushi. In the year 1313, after his father‘s death, he rose to the position of his father on the insistence of the people of Yazd. He was considered as a religious authority and as a man of knowledge (“Ahle Minbar wa mahrab”). He was the Imam (leader) of two masjids (mosques) and used to handle the affair of the people.

HIs initial contact with Bahais and the Bahai Faith
In the year 1320, at the age of 33 he was introduced to a Bahai book. The books made such an impression upon him that he was eager to meet them. He came in contact with members of the Bahai Faith and even stayed in those areas which were largely occupied by Bahais. He met with some prominent Bahai speakers. They appointed some Bahais to have regular contact publicly with Abdul Husain Aayati so that they could lower his esteem in the eyes of the people, while others alleged that he had inclined towards the Bahai Faith. Due to these accusations, people distanced themselves from him due to which he left his birthplace. Considering this move as an opportunity, Bahais tried to attract him and were successful in that for after some time he declared the Bahais Faith. However as time passed, he realized that Bahais were not correct and then reverted to Islam.

Read the entire article about Abdul Husayn Ayati

Message to Bahai Youth of Malaysia – Must See

While doing research for BahaiAwareness.com, I came across this Blog which I think should be read by Muslims and by Bahais. The blog which I am referring to is http://formerbahai.blogspot.com and as the name will show is authored by a former Bahai who has since long  reverted back to Islam.

In this blog, my friend reveals amongst other things, what caused him to be disillusioned by the Bahai Faith and what contradictions he saw in the Faith.

My intention is not to reproduce the entire blog here – however from time to time, I may choose articles to highlight in The Bahai Insider. For now, I leave you with his general message to the Bahai Youth of Malaysia.

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