Recently retrieved Baha’i censuses from several countries exposes Baha’i lies more…

“During my time as a Baha’i, I saw potential converts lied to by Baha’is regarding the membership of the Faith. The Baha’is, especially the Baha’i leadership, have always grossly inflated the ‘official’ numbers in order to present an inaccurate picture to the world (as well as to individuals considering conversion) and to make the Faith seem much more successful and influential than it really is. ” —Scott

Professor Juan Cole of the University of Michigan commented in April 2001 that, since 1968, 50% of the people who entered the bahai faith have left it. According to him, the usual figure for most Christian denominations is approximately 80% retention, meaning about only 20% decide to leave once they become a member. See Professor Cole’s comment below that even 5 million Baha’is worldwide is exaggerated by the Baha’i administration.

50% is truly a remarkably high number and reveals emphatically that something is indeed wrong about the atmosphere within the bahai faith. Often the new adherent quickly comes to realize someting is wrong behind the facade of love and brotherhood.

The FULL TEXT of the New Mexico lawsuit reveals what many of the problems are that are driving sensitive and thoughtful people out of the bahai faith in droves.

Juan Cole has also stated that according to the official census figures of India there are approximately only 5,000 bahais that they were able to find in the country compare with the millions claimed by the bahai administration, a fact worth lingering on….

Nation Census data Bahá’í-cited data
Barbados 178[1] 3,138[2]
Belize 202[3][4] 7,776[2]
Canada 18,945[5] 30,000[6]; 46,587[2]
Guyana 500[7] 13,045[2]
India 4,572[8][9] 1,880,000[2]
over 2,000,000[11]
Mauritius 639[10] 23,703[2]

Sources:

  1. “Redatam”. Census. Barbados Statistical Service. 2010. Archived from the original on 4 October 2010. Retrieved April 23, 2017.
  2. “Most Baha’i Nations (2005)”. QuickLists > Compare Nations > Religions >. The Association of Religion Data Archives. 2005. Retrieved April 23, 2017.
  3. “2010 Census of Belize Overview”. 2011. Retrieved April 23, 2017.
  4. “2010 Census of Belize Detailed Demographics of 2000 and 2010”. 2011. Retrieved April 23, 2017.
  5. “2011 National Household Survey: Data tables”. Statistics Canada. Retrieved April 23, 2017.
  6. “The Bahá’í Community Canada, Facts and Figures”. The Bahá’í Community Canada. Bahá’í Community Canada. 2014. Retrieved April 23, 2017.
  7. “Chapter II, Population Composition, 2002 Census” (PDF). Statistics Bureau. 2002. Retrieved April 23, 2017.
  8. “C-01 Appendix : Details of Religious Community Shown Under ‘Other Religions And Persuasions’ In Main Table C-1- 2011 (India & States/UTs)”. Retrieved September 17, 2016.
  9. “Population Enumeration Data (Final Population)”. Retrieved April 23, 2017.
  10. “Resident population by religion and sex” (PDF). Statistics Mauritius. pp. 68,71. Archived from the original (PDF) on October 16, 2013. Retrieved April 23, 2017.
  11. “Baha’i Faith in India”. Official Website of the Bahá’ís of India. National Spiritual Assembly of the Bahá’ís of India. 2010. Retrieved April 24, 2017.

Discuss this : https://www.reddit.com/r/exbahai/comments/67o11y/national_census_data_compared_to_bah%C3%A1%C3%ADcited/

This is also interesting : https://fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/FalseStats.htm

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Question and Answers – Baha’i faith and Israel?

April 1968: A Baha’i delegation met with Israel’s President, Zalman Shazar


Question :

(A) Why are Baha’is forbidden to teach their faith in Israel?
Baha’i Answer : Bahaullah, founder of the Baha’i Faith, prohibited teaching the faith in Sham (the Ottoman province of Syria which includes present-day Israel and Palestinian territories) [1]. Note that this ruling was made at least 56 years before the establishment of the state of Israel.

Reality : Yeah! Right! Let’s exclude people from attaining salvation simply because they live in a specific geographical location: The vast territories called “Sham”! I can just imagine how this law was introduced: “I Baha’u’llah, have brought a new religion from God but but but (stutters) God told me no one is allowed to teach the faith to those leaving in SHAM.” Funny that Baha’is think this excuse is justified for Israel while they call the actions of the Iranian government for implementing the exact same rule but within its own borders persecution. Pure hypocrisy at its finest.
In case you didn’t realize in my response, I said nothing about SHAM. I said Israel. The current ruling states Baha’is can have no activities in ISRAEL, not SHAM. ISRAEL is not SHAM. In case you didn’t know Baha’is are merrily living in and teaching their beliefs in SHAM:http://rlp.hds.harvard.edu/faq-religion/bahai-faith ….

Question :

(B) Why are there no Baha’i community in Israel? Baha’i Answer : With the onset of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, the Baha’i community of Palestine left the region to avoid becoming involved in the political dispute.

Reality : Meaningless argument. Baha’is claim they do not involve themselves in politics in any manner. Stating that they left Israel “to avoid becoming involved in the political dispute” is pure baloney. Baha’i live in many many regions with grave political situations but they never leave those places. Do Baha’is take us for fools when they put forward these lame excuses?

Question :

(C) Do you know what Local Spiritual Assemblies do?
Baha’i Answer : They register marriages and divorces, organize devotionals (that is when they meet in each other’s homes to pray), etc. None of this warrants persecution.

Reality : Baha’is are not being persecuted or prosecuted for any of that. As I said Baha’is are free to practice their own beliefs within themselves. Get married according to their own customs, divorced, pray and… as long as they don’t proselytize in Iran. That is the law in Iran. Disobey it and you will be PROsecuted like all laws in all countries.

You forgot to mention that Local Spiritual Assemblies are part of the Baha’i dictatorship hierarchy, they take orders from the next level in rank and convey it to the adherents. e.g. so and so Baha’i dude is now considered a covenant breaker and no one in the community including his parents, spouse, children can speak with him and must all shun him. The LSA also gathers intelligence from those in the community and threatens dissidents and those that dare to question the rulings of the dictatorship order. You didn’t know all this or you simply ignored it?

Question :

A Baha’i pretending to be a Shiite claims : All religions have some sort of organization and hierarchy. Living in Canada, as a Shia, I am blessed to live near Shia mosques, community centers, and even a Shia highschool! All thanks to freedom of religion. And yet, we turn a blind eye to what happens in the only Shia country in the world. We forget that they too (eg, Baha’is, Buddhists, Hindus) should also have freedom of religion. Truth will ultimately prevail so why does the Iranian government resort to closing down Baha’i business and debar Baha’is from universities?

Answer : No religion has a hierarchy and organization like that of Baha’ism. The UHJ is a pure dictatorship. They decide if you can be considered a Baha’i or not, they decide who you can or cannot socialize and speak with, they decide where you can or cannot travel to, they even decide what portions of there scripture can be translated or distributed… disobey and you will be punished big time. In its organized form it is a government within a government. No country will tolerate such behavior. If your going to practice your beliefs in this manner you’re gonna need a legal Permit from the government and well, they don’t have that permit in Iran. They have the freedom to practice their beliefs individually but organizational and proselytization is a big no no, just like in Israel.

Did you know Baha’is believe non-Baha’i schools are: death incarnate, a cause of stagnation, abatement and humiliation? No, well read this: http://www.bahaibahai.com/eng/index.php/articles?id=92

That is all the stuff they never tell you about. If any organization or faith system with such sick beliefs wanted to erect a school where I live then rest assured that I would be the first person to oppose its establishment and propagation of its beliefs. But they are free to practice their beliefs among themselves, no one would care less let, even the Iranian government.

Why Baha’is are persecuted in Iran and some other countries ?

The students of underground Baha’i university “BIHE” in Iran

 

The students of underground Baha’i university “BIHE” in Iran

It is actually PROsecution not PERsecution.

Putting aside all the propaganda and exaggeration that Baha’is spread about what happens to them or how they are treated in Iran; the answer to this question is very simple.

Baha’ism is not a simple religious entity where you keep your beliefs to yourselves. It is an ORGANIZATION where the adherents are required by their beliefs to participate in all matters of the cult in an organized matter taking orders in a hierarchical form from the highest in rank, the Universal House of Justice, down to the Local Spiritual Assemblies.

Any organization, and I repeat any organization in any country, must first obtain the necessary legal approvals in accordance with that country’s laws for it to be able to start its activities. Baha’is have received no approvals whatsoever and their organizational activities are all illegal in Iran. When they are busted by the authorities for their illegal activities they go around claiming that they are being PERSECUTED FOR THEIR BELIEFS while in reality it is LEGAL PROSECUTION.

Funny thing is, the Israeli government does not allow them to have any activities in Israel and Baha’is happily oblige and never protest. Their persecution in Israel is so harsh that they are not even allowed to live in Israel (only allowed a short few day visit to visit their holy sites, and only IF the Universal House of Justice allows them), yet they never ever protest to this. This hypocritical behavior makes matters even worse for them in Iran because they are obviously making themselves a tool of the western governments against Iran by this attitude.

Why are Bahais teaching even though it is BANNED?

Why the Baha’is are ‘teaching’ Children and Junior Youth in Shiraz (Iran) although their Supreme Haifan Body ‘apparently’ asked them to halt all the activities in that country. (In this video you can also see prominent Iranian Baha’is meeting with Counselors in Dubai)

The Baha’is teaching the children in Egypt although deceptive conversion is banned in Egypt.

Baha’is teaching their faith to non-Baha’i children in the BCC that is open for all and they say that they are taking moral classes and not teaching their faith.

The Baha’is teaching Baha’i prayers in their moral (Conversion) classes in India. Although deceptive conversion is banned in India and many times the Baha’is have been warned and taken to the police.
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ATTN. SURAJ CHEW & GLORIA JAVID! IF THIS VIDEO IS REMOVED THEN I WILL UPLOAD IT ON IRANIAN SERVERS – LET’S SEE THEN HOW YOU DELETE IT FROM THERE. I WILL SPREAD IT EVERYWHERE ON ARABIC – PERSIAN FORUMS AND ALL OTHER VIDEO REPOSITORIES. FYI – I HAVE THE RAW VIDEO FILE. – Naser
Baha’is teaching in Israel. Although officially it is banned to teach there.

Bahá’i Role in the 50-Year Crimes of the Pahlavi Regime

This article demonstrates part of the documents and reports acquired from SAVAK concerning the Bahá’is’ collaboration with the regime. The original documents are respectively provided at the end of this section.

A. The connection between Bahá’is and Reza Khan

During the rule of Reza Shah, there did not exist a strong intelligence organization, such that a document on the Bahá’i connection with the regime might be divulged. However, confessions by a Bahá’i leader in this respect cleared everything up: According to a SAVAK report, at a meeting of the Nafhatollah Publishing Commission in Shiraz on 31.3.1350 (June 21,1971), Mr. Massihollah Rohani said: “At the time of Reza Shah andSeyed Noureddin, we were plundered, but Reza Shah, very dismayed about this affair, secretly killed off some Muslims without the Ulema’s knowledge. Since he was a real Bahá’i and always supported the Bahá’is, the unveiling of women was done in conformity with Bahá’u’lláh’s rule and logic.” (Exhibit No. 17)

B. The connection between Bahá’is and the deceased Shah

The major part of the organizations of the Shah’s damned rule, particularly SAVAK, was managed by Bahá’is.

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Christian Conversion = Arrest. Bahai?

I came across this article on the Internet regarding conversion activities of a Christian pastor in Bangalore. The article is reproduced below

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BANGALORE: Mahadevapura police on Thursday arrested a 31-year-old trainee pastor for allegedly trying to convert 23 children, including 14 girls, during a summer camp here.

Victor Babu alias Victor, a native of Dharmavaram in Andhra Pradesh, was held following a complaint filed by a few parents. Police recovered prayer books, pamphlets and other material from him and registered a case under Section 295A of the Indian Penal Code.

Ref: http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-04-20/bangalore/31373773_1_summer-camp-conversion-bid-pastor

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The article got me thinking. The Government of India has rightfully banned any kind of conversion activities in India. I applaud the effort of the Government of India and congratulate the efforts of the Indian Police.

I would like to draw the attention of the Governemt of India and Indian Police to another community which has been practising conversion in India for a very long time and has surprisingly escaped any kind of attention so far.

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Answer to Dr. Tarek Heggy, Egyptian Bahai

On 24th January an article by Dr. Tarek Heggy (letter produced below) was put on the Egyptian Bahá’í website and surprisingly was translated into many language overnight it was spread all over the net.

Well Mr. Heggy first of all you are sitting out of our country, and spreading false rumors and spoiling image of our country, simply you should have said that you are a Bahá’í what is the need of saying that “If you were a Bahá’í”.

It has crossed all limits of Dramatics and entered the domain of Hypocrisy. Well Mr. Heggy you should know that in recent past there is a good attack on Bahá’í Faith accusing the Bahá’ís of hypocrisy and this is a best proof of it.

Means you want to show that you are a non Bahá’í and looking at the pity situation of the Bahá’ís of Egypt you are unable to control yourself resulting in this article.

Mr. Heggy there are quite a number of educated people who are surfing the net and they are wise enough to conclude that:

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Proselytizing Baha’i Faith in Schools is Unethical and Immoral

I was a student of New Era School and I will not hesitate in accepting that a full scale Proselytizing goes on in the school in the name of Children Moral Classes. To be honest I have to say here that I did accept the Baha’i Faith for a while for which I was given a declaration card to sign stating that I believe in Bahaullah and Abdul Baha. Therefore I was not at all surprised to see your blog which points towards the Baha’is Proselytizing the Faith to the tiny tots in the Schools in India in the name of Community development. The methods adopted by the Baha’is are dangerous and deceptive as the children are not mature enough and cannot realize what is the actual purpose of these courses. But the fact is that whatever Baha’is are doing is just the order of their apex organization the Universal House of Justice.

Bahai conversion in india

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Baha’i Conversion Activities in Nashik

The Baha’is always deny that we are not involved in the conversion of Indians but we are just trying to serve the society by conducting moral classes for the Children and Junior Youth. Here is a report from a Baha’i Auxiliary Board Member published in a Baha’i Newsletter {Reflections on Growth––Number 28, December 2011} The report says the Baha’i propagandists have gone to the villages had a meeting and got their declaration, that states that they have accepted the Baha’i Faith and believe in Baha’u’llah as the manifestation of God of this age and Abdul Baha as his successor. The acceptance of the Baha’i Faith implies that they have abandoned Hinduism. These villagers are taught that “you have gained promotion in Hinduism not left it”. How long the Baha’is and their Administration will keep on cheating the simple minded Indians.

An Auxiliary Board member reports on how the friends in an advanced cluster area assisting a neighboring cluster in efforts to initiate a program of growth and pass the first milestone.

“It was decided in our reflection meeting in Nashik that a team would visit the Surgana cluster to assist the two dedicated young men who had pioneered there about three months ago. We formed a team of five – three men and two women – and headed to Surgana so that we could help with home visits that evening.

Converting Hindus in India just outside a Hindu Temple

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Bahais caught ‘cheating’ again in Panchgani

For centuries Indians have been forcefully converted into other religions. Religious conversion has profoundly affected our cultural legacy by the after-effects of genocidal coercive religious conversion. It has left its wounding imprint on our individual psyches and our collective consciousness.

Although coercive religious conversion of Hindus in India and abroad has deep historical roots, recent deceptive religious conversion techniques used by Baha’i Religion pose serious political, social, ethical and psychological problems.

Converting Hindus in the Temple of Lord Ganesha

Converting Hindus in the Temple of Lord Ganesha

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