Bahai Israel Relations: More than meets the eye!

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One of the very important chapters in the political record of Bahai Faithis the sincere relations and close cooperation of the leaders of the sect with Zionists in general and the occupier regime of Ghods in particular. History bears witness that the relations between the Bahai leaders with Zionism has a record much longer than the life of the “Israeli regime”. Ben Zvi (a Zionist activist and later the president of Israel) has confessed to his meeting (along with his wife) with Abbas Afandi in the Behji Palace (in Akka) and put the date of the meeting between 1909-1910, some forty years before the establishment of Israel (1948) which shows the strategic depth of the relations between Bahai heads and Zionists. Historical evidences also show the relations between Abbas Afandi with members of the Rochild Family who were the main organizers and investors of the plot for settlement of Jews in Palestine.

So, why do Zionists support Bahai Faith to such an extent?

Bahais and IsraelDid the “selfish and merchant” Zionists sacrifice themselves for this sect just for nothing! and without any expectation? The reality is that Bahais serve Zionists and their sprout, Israel, with all their potentials in return for their supports and in addition to collecting financial aid and sending for this regime they smuggle and illegally import Israeli goods into Iran thus trying to flourish the dying economy of the regime. It is surprising that in their sites and media and against this question (or protest) concerning the relations of the sect with Israel , the Bahais impudently claim that there is no relation between the sect and the Zionists and occupiers of Palestine and the centrality of the Baitul Adl (House of Justice, Bahai Faith Headquarters) in Israel is totally accidental! and it has nothing to do with the common interests of the two parties!. Indeed when Bahaism tie its fate to that of Zionism in this way, it cannot claim that the setting up of the headquarter of this sect in Israel is simply due to the existence of the graves of the leaders of the sect in the occupied Palestine, and for this reason Israel has turned into the Qibla of Bahais.

27 Responses to Bahai Israel Relations: More than meets the eye!

  1. Sam says:

    You should read the official agreement between the Baha’i world centre and the State of Israel. It is a “Friendship and Cooperation” document which is available at most Baha’i national centres.

    • This appears to be a document to try and spread mistrust about the Baha’is – possibly to condone all the persecutions and executions of them in Iran over the years – by manufacturing some link to Jews and Zionism, that other pet-hate-hobby-horse of radicals in Iran. All these links to global conspiracies and Zionists, etc, have all the trademarks of the usual jihadist paranoia. Try for once achieving peace within Islam between Shias and Sunnis, before turning an eye of suspicion, and hatred, towards other religious sects. There is only ONE God (for those who choose to believe at all)… and all of this wrangling over the different routes to get to Him would have Him laughing out loud, if He had a sense of humour.

      Indeed, if God had any sense of personal respect (and irony!), he would ensure that all those who killed in his name (ergo, the jihadists) were first to be slow roasted in hell. ‘Kill in your own name, if you so wish, but kill in mine without truly knowing my thoughts and wishes, and I will ensure you are first to be punished.’ After all, killing in the name of the main creator of life is not only one hell of an arrogant contradiction in terms, but the ultimate usurping of his authority. The hate-preaching Imams and jihadists simply haven’t thought that one through.

      • imranshaykh says:

        Dear John, this is not an attempt to discredit the Bahai Faith for nothing. Nor does it have anything to do with Sunni or Shiah Islam. It is about understanding the truth or the contradictions of the Bahai Faith. By pointing a finger towards the actions of the jihadists in Islam does nothing to help the Bahai Faith or its adherents. While we condemn the actions of jihadists and condemn their philosophy and interpretation of Islam, there is nothing which prevents Muslims for asking questions about the Bahai Faith which in any case twists the verses of Quran and traditions to establish its point.

        Warm regards
        Imran

      • Cynthia D. says:

        “This appears to be a document to try ad spread mistrust about the Baha’i.”

        LOL! (2X) This document is a *written document/political contract* between the State of Israel and the Baha’i World centre *signed* by the Universal House of Justice itself (and again, available through most NSAs, if you ask – hard enough – because they don’t want general basic baha’is to know about it at this point)…

      • 68tresculturas68 says:

        Not needed, with all the NWO, we are all one, one government, one police, it is exactly what the devil worshippers want. It all sounds great, except when you realise that in order to achieve such illusion, billions would have to be killed, and free thought would have to end. It is a smart satanic play, the devil is smart, baha’i is are very stupid and gullible and some actively satanic (your bahai rulers)

  2. No ,this utter nonsence.

  3. Bah humbug.

  4. Hey read the writings and stop jaw jacking . Love forever.

  5. fabio ehsani says:

    i am a Bahai.
    the States of Israel didnt exist when Bahaullah died in 1892. those territories were controlled by the Turkish Empire, an Islamic empire. moreover Bahaullah didnt decide to go in Palestine, but He was there because he was explelled from Persia..
    it is obvious that believers wanted to build some temples and the headquarter near His tomb.

    • imranshaykh says:

      Dear Fabio:

      Our theory is that the plot for gaining control of Palestine began much before it actualised. Read the last 10 pages of “Going Solo” by Roald Dahl where he meets a jewish family at the time of WWII in Palestine who told him that this land would be theirs. This was when Israel was not yet born.

      The advent of the Bahai Faith and the subsequent support by the West is sufficient proof of that.

      Regards
      Imran

      • Neville Heath says:

        It was hardly a ‘plot’, but you can call it that to make it more conspiratorial if you want. Of course you’d meet Jews during World War 2 who wanted a homeland, or have you overlooked the Holocaust? Also, jcrossing mentions the Balfour Declaration of 1917, but there was also the Syke-Picot Agreement of 1916 both of which made promises to Jews AND Arabs. Moreover, the idea of a return to Israel was a reponse to growing antisemitism in nineteenth-century Europe and resulted in Herzl’s Der Judenstaat published in 1896, obviously well before either world war. So a widely published work that resulted in a public effort to re-establish a Jewish presence in the Holy Land doesn’t sound like a conspiratorial ‘plot’ which, by definition, relies on secrecy. But surely you’re aware of this?

        As for the other united Muslim ummah- are you sure it’s united? How many sects are there in Islam already, let alone the two who engage in civil war with each other whenever they can? Islam has a long history of schism- and that might be a strength. People who want to emphasise different aspects of belief, perhaps to make a religion more culturally relevant to a society, can do so.

        Critise whomever you want whenever you want, but these conspiracy theories do your arguments no favours. You’ll convince far more people by using evidence rather than tautological rhetoric- if you’re ideas have any validity, rather than being based on supposition and hypothesis.

      • imranshaykh says:

        Dear Neville:

        You overlook couple of points in your argument.

        Islam never claimed that it would unite mankind. The Bahai Faith did. Unfortunately while Islam was divided by its ahderents, the founders of Bahaism were unable to unite their own. See the families of Abdul Baha and Shoghi. Every one of them were censured / excommunicated and labelled covenant breakers in some form or the other.

        As regards, the Jews, I dont have much to say, but I do believe that the Holocaust happened (if at all) in Europe. That does not give the Jews any right to claim some one else’ land as their own. If the Americans, Europeans et all had genuine sympathy, they could have allocated land within their countries to Jews. In any case, Israel is a very small piece of land.

        But let me add, this is not my area of study nor my area of interest. So I would not want to start and have a conversation about the rights of Jews in Israel.

        Regards
        Imran Shaykh

      • Ali says:

        You wrote, “Read the last 10 pages of “Going Solo” by Roald Dahl where he meets a jewish family at the time of WWII in Palestine who told him that this land would be theirs. This was when Israel was not yet born.”

        Every Jew since the time of Moses believed that they will inherit the Promised Land which includes the land of Israel today. Nothing noteworthy.

      • imranshaykh says:

        Dear Ali:

        Nothing noteworthy for you. But the fact is the the Jews usurped the lands occupied by the Arab Palestinians and sought the help of the West in doing so. This was all a much larger plan of the West to ensure that the Jews returned to what they believed was theirs. Unfortunately it was not. Also even as they returned to the “Promised Land” the Jews did not adopt an approach of mutual collaboration. They persecuted the Palestinians and took over their land. The truth is out there for those who wish to see.

        Warm regards,

    • imranshaykh says:

      Dear Fabio, thanks for your query and sorry for the really late response (you wrote to me in 2013)

      We believe the Bahai Faith along with the Qadiani Faith are consipracies to create divisions in the other united Muslim ummah. The creation of these Faiths is a step towards the creation of Israel.

      Regards,

      • 68tresculturas68 says:

        If the holocaust did happen (conspiracy to murder millions by a plan to systematically end thie lives), which I don’t believe it did, due to lack of evidence other than imagery that has been edited or imagery from real atrocities, it would have been a planned event.

        The ones that profited were the Jews, and their infrastructure.

  6. jcrossing says:

    Are you aware of the history of the Balfour Declaration, and I emphasize the history of it because it didn’t fall our of the sky in 1929? Connecting the Baha’i Faith to this process and document in any way is a another fabricated product of your imagination. I see you taking real events, inserting fictional Baha’is into those events, putting your words in their mouth, and fantasizing a scenario of their actions, then reporting it as your inside knowledge. This calumny is preposterous and says more about the integrity of the fabricator than the Baha’i Faith. Where is your shame? Baha’is love, revere, and respect Muhammad and Islam as revelation from Allah. You calumniate the Baha’i Faith and its Founder because you interpret Muhammad’s words of being the last Prophet as the be all end all of His meaning and wish to harm and descredit the Faith. His revelation correctly understood was the end of the Prophetic Cycle, not the end of revelation forever. Baha’u’llah has begun a new cycle for humanity, the Age of Fulfillment. Stop fabricating and twisting.

    • imranshaykh says:

      Please let me know where Bahaullah said that Mohammed’s revelation was last of the prophetic cycle and his was a new cycle.

      Also let me know where Bahaullah said that Bab was an independent prophet of God?

  7. Ma Tiande says:

    Mohammad, He rest in peace, despises this website and will destroy it soon.

    • imranshaykh says:

      I dont think so. I think the Prophet will be pleased with my effort in establishing the truth about the Bahai Faith. And I think he will be distressed at how the Bahais have mis-interpreted his words and the Quran.

      • Arman says:

        Dear Imranshaykh,

        Your Baha’i / Israel conspiracy is non-sense, for one simple fact… It was Muslim governments and Muslim empires that banished “Abbas Afandi” and Baha’u’llah. First the Persian gov’t banished Baha’u’llah to modern day Iraq, then He was banished again to modern day Syria, and then banished by the Ottoman empire to Palestine (Modern day Israel). The Ottoman empire was one of the greatest Islamic Empires. This is well documented history from many sources, so it was Islam and Muslim rulers that banished them to the land we call Israel today. Baha’u’llah nor Baha’is went there on their own accord, but rather through imprisonment and banishment. This was God’s will.

        God’s will established the beautiful religion of Islam, it is God’s will to establish whatsoever He pleases. You are not an interpreter for God. Nor are the various mullah’s and clergy interpreters of God. We must follow only the Holy Books themselves… The Holy Books are the only revealed word of God. “Follow, O mankind, what has been revealed to you from your Lord and do not follow other than Him any allies. Little do you remember. ” ~ The Holy Quran, Surat 7

        I encourage you to SINCERELY strive to understand the truth, seek knowledge from here to China, I encourage you to read with your own mind and eyes the writings of The Bab (the Mehdi) and Baha’u’llah and ask Allah to reveal to you the truth. It is not fair, nor just, and not Muslim like, to dismiss something without reading the writings for yourself. The Quran is the truth for me, not because people say it, or my mom said it, or because Baha’u’llah said it is, the Holy Quran is the truth for me because I read it with my own eyes. I encourage you to SINCERELY seek the truth. Read the writings of Baha’u’llah and ask God to reveal whatever truths there are. The worst beasts in the sight of Allah are the ones that have been given a mind, eyes and ears, but refuse to use them. Be sincere and seek.

        Lastly, may Allah bless you for whatever is truly in your heart, for He knows what we speak or don’t speak. Many people have ascribed to Baha’u’llah and Bahai’s many false things. God knows your intentions.

        Be blessed,

        Arman

      • lifepowernow says:

        Dear Imranshaykh,

        Your Baha’i / Israel conspiracy is non-sense, for multiple reasons, but for the sake of brevity, for one simple fact… It was Muslim governments and Muslim empires that banished “Abbas Afandi” and Baha’u’llah. First the Persian gov’t banished Baha’u’llah to modern day Iraq, then He was banished again to modern day Syria, and then banished by the Ottoman empire to Palestine (Modern day Israel). The Ottoman empire was one of the greatest Islamic Empires. This is well documented history from many sources, so it was Islam and Muslim rulers that banished them to the land we call Israel today. Baha’u’llah nor Baha’is went there on their own accord, but rather through imprisonment and banishment. This was God’s will.

        God’s will established the beautiful religion of Islam, it is God’s will to establish whatsoever He pleases. You are not an interpreter for God. Nor are the various mullah’s and clergy interpreters of God. We must follow only the Holy Books themselves… The Holy Books are the only revealed word of God. “Follow, O mankind, what has been revealed to you from your Lord and do not follow other than Him any allies. Little do you remember. ” ~ The Holy Quran, Surat 7

        I encourage you to SINCERELY strive to understand the truth, seek knowledge free from love or hate, I encourage you to read with your own mind and eyes the writings of The Bab (the Mehdi) and Baha’u’llah and ask Allah to reveal to you the truth. It is not fair, nor just, and not Muslim like, to dismiss something without reading the writings for yourself and then pondering on them. The Quran and the Revelation of His Holiness Muhammad is the truth for me, not because people say it, or my mom said it, or because Baha’u’llah said it is, the Holy Quran is the truth for me because I read it with my own eyes, I pondered on it. I encourage you to SINCERELY seek the truth. Read the writings of Baha’u’llah and ask God to reveal whatever truths there are. The worst beasts in the sight of Allah are the ones that have been given a mind, eyes and ears, but refuse to use them. Be sincere and seek.

        Lastly, may Allah bless you for whatever is truly in your heart, for He knows what we speak or don’t speak. Many people have ascribed to Baha’u’llah and Bahai’s many false things. Remember, God knows your intentions.

        Be blessed,

        Arman

      • imranshaykh says:

        Dear Armaan:

        Thank you for your kind email. I was moved when I read it. I feel sad for you. You have requested me to read the writings of the Bab and Bahaullah – which I have done. I dont think you have read them. Not because you dont want to read them. But because the Bahai administration does not want you to read them.

        Check out the writings of the Bab. Today only one book “Selected Writings of the Bab” exist. What happened to the rest of his books? All lost as per Bahais because if people read the books of the Bab they will leave the Bahai Faith.

        For example, Bab never mentioned the Bahaullah by name. Ever. Bahaullah claimed the title for himself.
        Bab never said that he was a prophet of God. Bahaullah did.
        12 principles were never brought by Bahaullah. Abdul Baha did.

        These are contradictions in the Bahai Faith and this is only few. There are 1000’s of such contradictions which you will find in my web site bahaiawareness.com. Do go through them and come back.

        I will be happy to answer your questions.

        I pray to Allah that He guide you to the truth of the Bahai Faith and reveal its deceptive nature to you. Also that He guides you to Islam.

        Regards
        Imran

  8. ) Why are Baha’i s not allowed to teach their Faith in the State of Israel?

    A. To not offend the Orthodox Jews mostly, who would get angry if even secular Jews converted to the Baha’i Faith, and cause trouble for the World Centre.

    2) Why is there no other Baha’i community in any other part of Israel except those 700 volunteers who work at the BWC in Haifa and Acre?

    A. See answer above.

    3) Why is if an inquirer (citizen from the state) wished to become a Baha’i there request would be refused, unless they left Israel and became a citizen of another country?

    A. See answer above.

    4) Why are young Baha’i s who work at the Baha’i center not allowed to date, become engaged or marry any citizen in the state of Israel ?

    A. Brings problems, because Jewish parents often get upset if their children marry non-isrealis, even non-Israeli jews.

    5) Why do Baha’i s insist that their presence in Haifa is that they have brought tremendous economic benefit to the city, surely this is a materialistic rather than a spiritual reason for being there?

    A. Baha’i leaders think of reasons to make Haifa leaders happy or Haifa city council refuses to give them building permit. Has happened before.

    6) Why do certain Iranian propagandists bring forth a charge that members of the Baha’i Faith are “agents of Zionism.”?

    A. Because Iranian propagandists are the sons of whores and they lie worse than satan himself.

    Questions to Bahai Faith:

    1. Two alternative Baha’i organizations have been sued by the Baha’i Faith organization for using the word “Baha’i” to describe their beliefs. That’s like the Catholic Church suing Protestants for calling themselves “Christians”. Do you agree that this makes your faith look ridiculous and petty?

    A. I would say it does.

    2. You believe that eventually all people and nations should come under the theocratic rule of the infallibly inspired Baha’i Universal House of Justice. How is this any different than the Caliphate, Shari’ah, Wilayat-i-faqih?

    A. Baha’is probably won’t chop people’s heads off for not being Baha’is.

    3. In the Kitáb-i-Aqdas (Most Holy Book) Baha’u’llah limits the number of wives to 2, but he had 3 wives. Why believe in such a hypocrite?

    A. The Qu’ran limits wives to four, but Muhammad had 11..so what is your point?

    4. Bahá’u’lláh was a polygamist who allowed men to have up to 2 wives, so why is polygamy forbidden by Baha’i law?

    A. Because ‘Abdu’l-Baha didn’t like polygamy.

    5. In the Kitáb-i-Aqdas (Most Holy Book) Baha’u’llah commands that a thief should have a visible mark put on his forehead after the third offense. Why do you consider this man to be the greatest Manifestation of God?

    A. That is better than cutting his hand off for the first offense, don’t you think?

    6. Abdu’l Baha and Shoghi Effendi are both infallible, so why can’t they decide if Confucius was or was not a Manifestation?

    A. Good point.

    7. You believe all the greatest faiths founded by Manifestations differ only in non-essential aspects of their doctrines. Even a cursory glance at the doctrines of the major world religions will tell you this is false. So why do you believe this?

    A. Good point.

    8. If Baha’u’llah is the apex of all previous Manifestations, why can’t he walk on water or split the moon?

    A. Because he didn’t want to…so there.

    9. According to your faith, each Manifestation is more perfect than the previous one, but do you honestly believe Prophet Muhammad’s teachings are superior to Christ’s or Buddha’s?

    A. Many Baha’is do believe that, they’ve told me so.

    10. In “Baha’u’llah and the New Era” (official Baha’i text) Abdu’l Baha (“Slave of Baha”, the infallible guide and eldest son of Baha’u’llah) stated that the Kingdom of God would be established on earth by 1957. Where is it, and why has this statemant been removed from the 1970 republication?

    A. It was removed because it was false.

    11. Bab declared Mirza Yahya (Baha’u’llah’s brother) as his successor and presented Baha’u’llah as an inferior. Why do Baha’is suppress this fact?

    A. Probably because Baha’is don’t want people knowing about it.

    12. If Baha’is are so peaceful, why was the faith founded on violence and assassinations between supporters of Mirza Yahya and Baha’u’llah?

    A. Baha’is are peaceful, but the brothers were not.

    13. You believe Christianity was perverted during the first century (as per Shoghi Effendi’s claim). Isn’t this hypocritical coming from a faith that suppresses source materials and revises the writings of deceased authors in futile attempts to make your beliefs match historical reality?

    A. Good point.

    14. Abdu’l Baha “excommunicated” practically all his closest relatives and deprived them of their income from Baha’u’llah’s estate after his fathers death. Do you agree that your infallible guide was a cruel and heartless individual?

    A. He wasn’t so bad.

    15. Based on the example set by the infallible Abdu’l Baha, Covenant-breakers (heretics and apostates) are often treated unkindly and ostracized by other Baha’is. So what makes your faith any better than mainstream Islam?

    A. Baha’is don’t cut off the heads of Covenant-Breakers.

    16. Huququllah is the right of guardian, it is clearly stated in your holy writings. Then why Haifan UHJ is accepting it in the absence of guardian?

    A. Because they need the money.

    17. Why you state that Baha’is are united when there are two UHJs and so many guardians and so many sects?

    A. Because they are not Baha’is (according to main Baha’i branch)

    18. When the membership of UHJ will be opened for women?

    A. When Hell freezes over

    19. When the teaching of the Baha’i faith will be permitted in the Holy Land (Israel)?

    A. see answer above

    • imranshaykh says:

      I think all the above answers are pure conjecture and your own personal point of view which has no meaning. I would appreciate it if you can provide me Bahai writings and traditions to support your view. I would want writings from Bahaullah only since he is the one designated by Bahais Faith as their new manifestation.

  9. Neville Heath says:

    “I think all the above answers are pure conjecture and your own personal point of view which has no meaning.”

    All of the above answers are conjecture… which have no meaning? What about the several that cite historical evidence that can be read and tested by anyone?

    Your words are, well, slightly ironic given that by your own admission your argument is based on a conspiracy theory, ie. pure supposition to the point of fantasy.

    And with all that’s going on in the Muslim world you’ve decided that the best thing you can do is to dedicate your energies to debunking the Baha’i Faith? Look inward, before East and West rip each other to shreds. Ask yourselves why some Muslim communities have failed to intergrate into their host societies, and feel affronted when they are told there is no place for Sharia In Europe, the UK, Australia, NZ, Canada and the US? Believe what you want- privately. No one in the West wants theocracy in any form- Muslim, Christian, Baha’i, Mormon, you name it.

    Examine your beliefs and reconcile yourselves to the democratic humanist belief that ‘toleration’ means more than tolerating only that which is permitted in the Koran and hadith- because that’s not what toleration means in western democracies, and we’ve struggled for too long to turn back the clock for anyone.

    Continue these debates, but I have a sneaking suspicion that much bigger arguments will overtake them, and your concerns will be consigned to what the Bolsheviks (another group who only followed one book and authorised tradtions) called ‘the dustbin of history.’

    • imranshaykh says:

      Dear Neville:

      Thanks for writing in. I would really, really like the Bahais to be a lot more sharp and precise in their response to arguments.

      I believe Islam is the most tolerant of all religions. I say this knowing well that the actions of Muslims belie that – and it urts me. but really study the teachings of Islam, the rule of the Holy Propet (pbuh) and that of his successor Imam Ali (as) in Kufa and you will realise that Islam teaches peace, tolerance and respect for all. it protects the rights of individuals like no other.

      The unfortunate part is that Western media along on the actions of a selected few sects of Islam have taken away attention from the true teachings of Islam to the violent (and condemned) form of Islam practised in Saudi Arabia.

      Islam is here to stay and no amount of effort by the West will make it go away.

      The Quran says – “They desire to put out the light of Allah with their mouths, and Allah will not consent save to perfect His light, though the unbelievers are averse (to it)” (Quran, chapter 9, verse 32)

      Warm regards
      Imran

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